ObamaCare will be a topic at the next River Valley Tea Party Patriots meeting
Join us for an interesting evening at the Wednesday, July 18th meeting of the River Valley Tea Party Patriots. The meeting will be held at the Consumnes River Elementary School. The doors will open at 6:30 p.m. and the meeting will start at 7:00 p.m.
Richard Fields of the Pacific Legal Foundation will discuss the results of the recent ObamaCare decision by the Supreme Court and the effect on our futures. PLF was active in filing briefs and arguing the case before the Supreme Court.
Also speaking will be Ed Ring, representing Yes on 32- Stop Special Interest Money. They have qualified an initiative for the November ballot that would severely restrict the ability of corporations and labor unions to make political contributions with their employee's or member's money.
Myrna:
http://www.barackobama.com/i-like-obamacare/ is a web site paid for by "Obama For America".
"I Like Obamacare" is the title of the article, paid for by "Obama For America".
My guess is that there are few Republicans supporting the "Obama For America" site.
For the most part Republicans I know that voted for Mr. Obama say they won't vote for him again.
It's going to be hard getting past the "billion" dollars being spent to re-elect him. I recall eight years ago when the mainstream media went crazy that George Bush spent five hundred million on his re-election campaign.
One question....where are they now? How come it's A OK for Obama but wasn't for Bush. Could it be we've had one hundred percent inflation in eight years?
Oh yes, I forgot about the liberal double standard.
And one more question for all you Obama supporters, have your insurance premiums gone down? Mine are only up about thirty percent since the passage of this "act". And I am quite certain they will only go much higher!
John...firstly, not sure what the first part of your comment has to do with the Thread so I won't comment on it...however, to the second part that your Inusrance has gone up 30%...If you learn the TRUTH about ACA, some of the benefits have already been implemented like keeping your children on your policy until they are 26 years old, like telling Insurance companies that if they don't spend 80% of premiums on policy holders, they must give a rebate back to their policy holders, like giving people who are on Medicare like my sister who is battling cancer, a discount when she goes into the 'donut hole", which she does every other month, like preventing Insurance Companies from cutting people when they get sick, stopping Insurance Companies from denying people because of "pre-existing conditions", like giving small business's tax breaks to help pay for health care for their employees....and there are many aspects of this that won't go into affect until 2014...
The link for Stephen. I asked my e-mail and zip
I was then asked contribute before I got any info
about the program. So I guess it has to be paid for and
"passed" before I can read it.
My two cents...
This new program will not impact or reduce the healthcare costs that have been spiraling upwards for many years now, regardless of who is President. We can't stop the year over year cost increases until you can stop the fraud and inefficient processing of healthcare payments.
Healthcare needs an "acquirer" model just like they do in the retail payment space. Every time you swipe a credit card at a store the "acquirer" is responsibile for handling fraud, risk, payment and settlement between all parties. With an acquiring model the retail payment space sees fraud levels around 1-2% of total transaction volume while the Healthcare model see fraud levels between 30-50%. This huge difference equates to hundreds of billions in wasted money simply because no one is managing the settlement, payment, risk and partner processes. This lack of an "acquiring model" is why healthcare costs will always continue to rise.
All they do now is shift the payment responsibility and hide it somewhere else in the healthcare chain. The fact more people are covered means simply more fraud and higher losses will occur and those increased costs will have to be captured someplace else in the healthcare chain, what doesnt change is that those cost increases will all end up out of our pocket.
Thx
Todd
- Republicans: No Republicans voted for the bill
- Democrats: 34 Democrats voted against the measure
- $47 billion: Health insurers would pay $47 billion over the same period.
I understand and have no problem with the details of this plan (or any other plan for that matter). I just think it doesn't address the core issues that need to be solved in order to reduce the ever-rising costs of healthcare
This plan is great for certain segments, but the higher costs will just be offset by higher premiums and lower coverage, its basically a 3-card monte game of hiding the costs under one shell or another. In the end the end-users (us) will pay the difference.
Both parties are quite good at this game, unfortunately neither have ever presented a plan that will address the core changes that are needed to stem the losses and lower the costs.
Hi Todd....I didn't like every aspect of this bill...BTW a lot of ACA was written by Republicans, including the Mandate....and then they all voted NO...huge parts of it were taken from "Romneycare".... I wanted a public option as did many Democrats.. didn't get that...Obviously, this is not what President Obama wanted either...clearly...as time goes on...this can be modified and improved on....but to want to throw the whole thing out is nuts. Right now, those who don't have insurance go to the ER and the rest of us pay higher and higher premiums...so we all are paying because of this now. What is the problem making those that can afford it to buy health Insurance so that when they get ill they will have insurance instead of expecting the rest of us to pay. for it, and to help out those who can't afford it... I didn't really get it when people griped about the Mandate....and lastly, all of those Republican Representatives who want to get rid of The Affordable Care Act get free publicly paid for health care. How hipocritical to be fine with getting a public option for them...but not for everyone else....
I am not disagreeing just trying to point out that neither party is presenting a plan or offering a solution that is designed to stop or decrease the costs of healthcare for the people.
By just presenting these "band-aids" the fact still remains that each year all of our costs will continue to hemorrhage and those with fixed incomes (retirees) will be dropping like flies (already they are with 60% of all BK's now healthcare cost related). It is inevitable disaster unless change is mandated quickly by both parties.
Hence the reason I think both parties are idiots, they don't care about fixing the problems only in spouting their views and rhetoric, which year after year doesn't solve the problem.
Obviously I have lost most all of my faith in the political system, no one wants to attack the difficult problems because it means they might not get re-elected. Just kicking the can down the road and hoping like hell someone else solves it.
This is one of thousands of examples of “favors” the current administration does and why they will increase your health care cost. Several years ago, the administration put into effect the “Unapproved Drugs Initiative”.
This basically authorizes studies on many commonly used ingredients used in many over the counter and prescription medications. But here’s the catch, they give market exclusivity to pharmaceutical companies and allow them to raise prices. For example, the important drug colchicine has been used for ailments since 1500 B.C. and if we don’t know every thing there is to know about it by now….well what can I say? The FDA gave URL Pharma three years of market exclusivity of colchicine (Pharma’s cute new name for it is Colcrys) and the price went from $.09 to $4.85 per tablet, while everywhere else in the world it sells for about 3 cents a pill.
I agree with Todd, The Core Problem Needs Solved either way.
This is a good discussion of a law that should have been debated more thoroughly before it was passed. The Tea Party Patriots examine issues using three criteria: First, is it fiscally responsible - can we afford it? Second, is it within the limits of the power of the Federal Government granted by the Constitution? Third, does it rely on free markets to promote the highest quality, greatest availability and the most competitively priced service?
The Pacific Legal Foundation's participation in the challenge to ObamaCare was related to the limits of the power of the Federal Government to dictate our personal choices.
If you are interested in the inside story on the Supreme Court case, please join us at 7:00 p.m. Wednesday evening at Consumes River Elementary School.
Bill, since your group "claims" to NOT be Republican...why then would you call The Affordable Care Act the name coined by ALL Republicans? In my opiinion, using this word clearly declares where your group stands...before you even have your meeting....
Myrna Solomon