Community center gets airing 6 p.m. Tuesday

A special meeting of the Rancho Murieta Association board of directors will take place 6 p.m. Tuesday for a presentation on the proposed community center and pool project. The meeting is expected to cover what the proposed facilities would look like, contain, and cost to build and operate.  The meeting will be held at RMA Building.

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Teresa Field
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Thanks committee & rm.com

Thanks RM.com for posting the special meeting online.  Thanks also to all those that are working on the project.  It sounds like a wonderful asset to this community. 

Rod Earle
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Plain & Simple

Plain & Simple....we do not want the increase, and we would not use the facility. Rancho Murieta was built to be a golf community, hence...the two beautiful courses we enjoy.  The club is why we moved here and if we are "forced" to pay additional fees, the club will probably lose even more members.....my vote will be NO.

Dick Cox
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COMMUNITY CENTER

Last night I attended the RMA Board meeting to ask questions regarding a couple of issues on the agenda and why they should they give them some consideration before voting. After finishing, and to my amazement, the BOD proceeded to vote on the issues without even discussing the points I had brought up. My questions were:

1. Why would they consider establishing a Capital Expense Fund for a project the membership had not voted on, let alone approved?

2. Do they intend to disenfranchise members from voting on the Community Center that are not classified as Members in good standing? I pointed out that many members are suffering hard financial time and it didn’t make sense to prohibit members from voting because they owe the RMA money when we are going to vote on something that is going to require an additional assessment of several hundred dollars which these same people may not be able to pay. The answer I got from the President was that “We have to do this”. I informed them that according to how I read the CC&R that is not the case that they have a choice and I pleaded with them not to do. I believe there could be far reaching problems when you start restricting anyone’s right to vote for any reason. Owing money to the government is not justification to revoke someone’s voting rights in this country.

3. I ask if we were going to see the proposed ballot they were voting on as I had some questions on how it would look. My concern was they were going to include the purchase and annexations of the proposed building site in the ballot. Our government documents require that any property annexed to the Rancho Murieta Association not only requires BOD approval, but also voted approval of 60% of the voting power of the membership.

After asking these questions the BOA proceeded to vote on all three items without any further discussion. I at lease expected someone to comment that maybe they should look into these things before they voted on them as they could create some real problems for the association if what I’d said was in fact valid. Not a word. The members of this board took an oath to protect the association and members. As a concerned member I brought  this to their attention. I expect when the BOD is recommending we the members spend somewhere around $4,000.000 and ongoing operating expenses they should make sure all the “I's” are dotted and all the “t's” crossed before doing so. I expect more out of our BOD other than just rubber stamping whatever the President and GM place before them. It’s the responsibility of every member to make sure the game is played by the rules which are our governing documents.

Dick Cox
Bill Day
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Railroad job.

I think it is perfectly clear that this board is trying to railroad the passage  of the community center.  They have no respect for those individuals that are suffering financially.  They are not allowing them to vote?  I just hope the vote is so overwhelming against the Center that somehow the board members can be held responsible for the underhanded policies they are pushing.

 

 

Bill Day

Steven W King
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I Secong that thought!

Great questions Dick. The fact that the BOD didn't care to consider them is all the more reason why we will be voting NO on this project. And as posted, I hope the NO vote is overwhelming and then the BOD can explain why they've wasted the money printing and mailing these ballots in the first place.

 

Dick Cox
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COMMUNITY CENTER

I’ve been opposed to the Community Center project almost from the beginning. This was championed by two members of the BOD from the start, Randy Jenko and Jim Moore, who somehow recruited the GM into their support group. I voted to seek membership input in the form of a flyer survey and we gave the GM permission to move forward. What he came back with was not anything I was expecting, it looked like a “Time Share” sale brochure.

When the vote was called to send this out to the membership, myself and Vicky Lentz voted who no. Two board members, who no longer serve. provided the 3rd and 4th votes needed for approval. This mailer ask a lot of questions but didn’t ask the one question needed, “Do you want to spend membership monies on a Community Center and swim complex?” Using the approximately 275 responds the champions molded the answers into their version of the members 75% approval rating and continually told the membership that.

There is no doubt in my mind that the people serving on the BOD and Ad Hoc Committee believe this is something that will benefit the community and convinced themselves this is what the membership wants. I’m also convinced they have misread the membership and the project will be voted down. 

As a result of not running a real survey at the start the BOD will have wasted an untold amount of membership monies on a cause that was doomed to failure. If you, the membership doesn’t in fact want this Community Center then you need to get out and vote NO or were all going to be on the hook for the financial results.

Dick Cox
Teresa Field
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Community Center is a Positive for the Community

The community center is a well thought out plan to highly enhance our community.  While it is sad that there are individuals in the community who can't afford their existing dues or are barely getting by, their plight should not keep the community from being able to take advantage of the down economy to get a great deal on property and building costs to construct a much needed community center and pool.  As a homeowner who owns my own pool, I very much look forward to having a pool and community center where we can gather as a community, where my husband can swim laps for therapy, where our family can swim with friends, and where we get the much needed meeting space that is a rare commodity.  While I recognize $1200 is a lot for some people even at $100/mo, this new project will had so much more value to our homes and lives.  It is an investment well worth making.  Look at Stonehouse park.  I understand it met much resistance to get built.  And yet, what would our community be without it.  Many of us live out here because we love it here.  We don't want to have to go elsewhere for sports, meeting places, and therapuetic swimming.  We have a chance to bring these to the community.  I urge everyone to get out and vote and bring the community center to a reality.  If the cost is truly the only factor for you, then I urge you to let one of the community groups know of your financial need, and let us see what we can do to help. 

Shelley Wright
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Community Center

 Yes, Stonehouse Park is a great gathering place that many of us enjoy.  

The difference between the two is that we weren't  forced to pay a large assessment for the park.  


 

Greg Caron
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Community Center and Pool

This community center and pool is sounding like a great plan with today's report that swimming at Lake Clementia can be hazardous to your health.  Never heard of a Giardia infection but doesn't sound like fun. 

 

 

 

Greg Caron

Janet Nicholson
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Convenient Timing

Sorry for the kid who has giardia - been there, not fun - and glad CSD is taking the complaint seriously.  Hate to be skeptical, but considering the previous lack of giardia in Clementia (unless I'm missng something), the diagosis by a doctor of his own kid and the timing of the upcoming vote for the community center, the timing of the giardia suddenly popping up is feeling just a little too convenient and a little suspect to me - like a campaign or scare tactic.  I hope I'm wrong, but look at the immediate response in the post above.  I'm just sayin'...

RM.com
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Not the doctor's child

A poorly written sentence, now fixed, caused you to think the pediatrician is the parent of the child who's ill.  That's not the case.  Sorry about that.

Janet Nicholson
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Thanks

That does make a difference.