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A fight erupted after a Little League game Tuesday night at Stonehouse Park, bringing sheriff’s patrol cars into the community and the helicopter overhead.  There were no arrests.

The fight started between parents from teams from South Sacramento, which were playing a championship game, Rancho Murieta Security Chief Greg Remson said Wednesday.  He said the mother of one player punched the father of a player from the opposing team, and a fight broke out.

A report was called in at 10:50 p.m. by an off-duty deputy who’s a parent and belongs to the league.  By the time three or four sheriff's patrol cars and Security got there, the fight was over, Remson said.

At Wednesday morning's Joint Security Committee meeting, Remson said the teams involved "have history."  There were questions about the eligibility of players on one team, he said, resulting in the players being pulled from the game and that team losing.

After the game ended, as people headed for their cars, words were exchanged, and the fight broke out.  "Only a handful were involved," Remson said.

He said he had talked with the league president, who said the league is trying to suspend the offending team from the championship tournament if not ban it from the league altogether.  If the team comes back, there will be a law enforcement presence on hand, the league official told Remson.

As Security raced to the scene Wednesday night, cars leaving the park were “flying down Escuela and Pera,” Remson said in an earlier interview.

There was a verbal altercation between parents reported by Security during a Saturday afternoon game at Stonehouse last month.  “Visiting team parent made threat towards home team parent.  Follow-up for Little League due to reoccurring occurrences,” Remson wrote in a memo of the June 6 incident.

On Wednesday, Remson said problems are referred to the league for handling and Security has only been called to Stonehouse a couple of times in the years Little League has hosted games there.

"These last two incidents are the last I can even think of out there," he told Joint Security.

At that session, Mel Standart, vice president of the Rancho Murieta Association, said of the league's actions, "If the Little League is not taking positive action, (the RMA) certainly could."


Bill Clark's picture
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Unbelievable!!!!      

Unbelievable!!!!        

A few classless parents sure can ruin the fun for our little league players.  Hopefully these parents involved will be banned from our parks moving forward!!!! 

John Dekker's picture
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Helicopter?

Of course the parents are at fault., but the sheriff's department, who is complaining about large budget cuts, sends a helicopter to a squabble at a little league game? Now that's ridiculous!

Myrna Solomon's picture
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correction!

First of all, this wasn't a Sheriff's helicopter, it was a CHP helicopter. Secondly, the report was of a large crowd of 50 people, some of them physically fighting, not squabbling, SO, be careful what you wish for; all Sheriff helicopters will be parked for the forseeable future because of budget cuts.

Myrna Solomon

Bill Clark's picture
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John   I'm guessing you

John

 

I'm guessing you were present at this game?  I'm betting the off duty deputy at the game, calling in for back-up, did it for a darn good reason.  Again, I'm hoping the CSD has names of those involved and they can be banned from the parks!!!!!

John Dekker's picture
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Helicopters

The report stated it was a sheriff's helicopter, but even if it was a CHP chopper, it is still tax payers' money. Tell me, please, exactly what good is a helicopter is this situation? The report also stated that a woman punched a man, and a fight broke out. Now, I wasn't there, but the 'copter sounds like an expensive over reaction to me. If you were there, Ms. Solomon, and you state that the situation was so dangerous that the helicopter was warranted, I will take you at your word, and retract my criticism

Mac Hamel's picture
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Helicopter a Fixed Cost

The CHP helicopter flying over Rancho Murieta was a fixed cost since it was going to be flying over somewhere at that time.  No additional taxpayer money was expended on the helicopter that wasn't already going to be spent last night.  Eyes in the sky can give good intelligence and command for the ground units, plus they can get to most places faster than ground units and assess the appropriate response thus not wasting resources for an incident that may already be over.

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Enforceability?

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how, logistically, RMA could effectively ban individual Little League guests who commit crimes here.  i don't think there is a list of names to take them off of.  It's more like when you've called in a party.  So no "approved" list to compare the banned parent to when they return to the gate another day.

Same goes as to those parents who Chief Remson reports were racing down Pera getting out of there.  Can't fine them, they're not members.  Not guests of a specific resident, so no resident to fine.  The Chief can neither ticket them nor stop them, even for a stern talking to. 

So I guess we just blow kisses as they race by.

Wait and see how much fun this impotence becomes when New North builds out.

Steven Mobley's picture
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Time for "Change"

The day we need to start providing cops for little league games is the day we need to re-think letting "outsiders" inside our gates. We have had tens of thousands of folks (guests) attend our July 4th, ETC,  Easter, Summerfest, Blues n Brews and other events over the years with nary an incident. This baseball stuff is getting out of hand with the lights and noise going on until 11pm or so almost every night and now mob fights between non-resident parents and players? I'm firmly behind what Mel has stated. Perhaps we need to severely limit/restrict the use of our park/common area. I believe we've expanded too much in our allowing too many teams from places far outside our community to enter and use our private fields/facilities. We all pay dearly to live in a PRIVATE community where we shouldn't have to be subjected to such BS. I'm paying for this?? Why pay for cops or extra security so a bunch a thugs can ruin our peace and security? It would be much cheaper to simply eliminate the cause of the problem. 

Steve

North Resident (who lives near the ballpark)

Blake Carmichael's picture
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concerned, but...

I've read a lot about this incident, and I've talked to multiple people who where there. I agree that it is concerning that a children's event (ha!), okay, over involved/invested parents' event led to physical fights.

In reading some of the comments here and elsewhere, one would think that this was akin to rioting that occurred in LA or New Orleans, or ???

Closing the gates would be an effective way to ensure that all of the misbehavior/fisticuffs are between residents only. However, it also would preclude our kids and families to utilize some of the best facilities in the area...why they were built.

Security is an issue for which I don't have the expertise or history as some...however, much of the "shut it down talk" is a bit over the top. Deal with the source of the problem, don't take away the venue. The venue is not the problem.

Kudos to the folks in charge at the event, and those that responded. Shame on the idiots who turned a youth event into a ring for overzealous, impatient, and ignorant parents.

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Satisfied Result

Having just read the updated article, I believe Mr Book has sufficiently provided a remedy/solution to the problem. Kudos to Mr Book. Wow, my knee just repositioned itself and stopped spasming.

Steve

Resident 

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