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John Hein's picture
Joined: 08/07/2007
Posts: 353
Murieta South (Expressway) Parkway

Are any other residents of lower Murieta South Parkway sick and tired of our neighbors speeding down the parkway betweeen 4:30 and 7:00 a.m. at speeds of 50 to 60 miles per hour? Every single weekday morning it starrts at 4:30 in the morning. Just because it is early does not give you the right to race down the street and blow through the Celebrar stop sign. Perhaps if i roared up your streeet at a high speed you would take notice!

Just because you are late for work or have to go to work that early, does that give you the right to be unsafe? Get up earler!! And I am tired of hearing all of your modified exhast as well...including the Harley guy who leaves every day at 5:00 a.m. Must you race through the gears coming up Celebrar? And then up Jackson Highway?

Have some common decency and consideration for your neighbors. Oh yeah, this is America and we don't need to do that any more. I'm sorry, I forgot. We've been practicing for years the inconsideration for others.

For my neighbors who have had it with this let's get together and do something about it. I  am tired of coughing up two million dollars a year for a security who sits on their hands and won't attempt to stop this nonsense. Feel free to contact me and let's find a solution. Enough is enough!!

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Daniel Maglionico's picture
Joined: 08/08/2007
Posts: 207
Where are the radar guys?

Where are the radar guys?

Butch Massoni's picture
Joined: 09/05/2007
Posts: 15
Le Mans on South Parkway

yer right, john.  after 15 years here, trying to get a stop sign on one of the cornesr, and countless other ideas, maybe a well placed slug into the tires would take car of the offending vehicles?

Rebecca Monti's picture
Joined: 08/04/2007
Posts: 13
Street Racing

Amen! When they get tired of MSP Raceway, they switch over to the Abierto Track. Last night while checking the mail, I almost got nailed by a silver mitsubishi that was just hitting 4th gear, and poor thing had to hit the skids just to miss me. The speeding is really bad around school bus time. Cross at your own risk at Celebrar! I suggest posting a  CHP unit  nearby, the folks that get a real ticket, one that puts a point on theyre driving record and jacks up the insurance just might start slowing down and stopping! Its very obvious that the RMA violation is worthless!  While were at it.......to the parents who send theyre CRES kids to the bus stop at the South Gate with no supervision...im tired of watching your kids swinging tree limbs and throwing things at other kids. When they come home and tell you that they got yelled at, now you know why. Its the same boys morning after morning. Its gotten old.

Scott Robertson's picture
Joined: 10/10/2007
Posts: 4
Simple Answer - Speed Bumps?

I don't mean to over simplify the issue, but I've long wondered at the speeding problem on many streets in both North and South and why the simple solution of strategically placed speed bumps hasn't been addressed.  Maybe it has and I'm unaware of the politics behind why they do not exist in our community.  I agree with the outrage posted by those here and I'm afraid it's going to take a very serious, even fatal accident before anyone takes the necessary action.  From many posts on this site, it's obvious our "violations" are not doing the job of helping curb the problem.

Am I oversimplifying the resolution here?  How do we get the process started for necessary measures to be taken?

Margie Brock's picture
Joined: 09/05/2007
Posts: 11
Murieta South (Expressway) Parkway

EXCELLENT!!!

John Hein's picture
Joined: 08/07/2007
Posts: 353
Enforcement RMS Parkway

Imagine that...the last two mornings, including today we have had radar enforcement. Well of course when drivers see our security they slow to a reasonable level.

After speaking to the officer at 6:00 a.m. he had only recorded a couple of violators, including one school bus running the stop sign. Go figure!

So I guess if we have enforcement in place on a daily basis these people will actually slow down. The question I have is how many days will an officer be able to sit out there?

John Hein

Butch Massoni's picture
Joined: 09/05/2007
Posts: 15
john-i saw him in front of

john-i saw him in front of your house...eating donuts!

Jeff Pealer's picture
Joined: 09/13/2007
Posts: 38
There has been a radar booth

There has been a radar booth on South Murieta for at least a week now. Hopefully it helps some.

John Hein's picture
Joined: 08/07/2007
Posts: 353
Thanks Jeff, sure enough the

Thanks Jeff, sure enough the radar trailer has been out there for a few days. It has helped to a degree.

Getting my paper this morning at 6:15 a.m. some idiot in a black Tahoe roared down the hill at probably around 50 mph and blew right through the Celebrar stop sign without slowing down. Apparently, he failed to get the memo! No, more than likely he is one of our neighbors who just doesn't care!

Too bad, but you just can't weed them all out!

John Hein

Andy Keyes's picture
Joined: 08/22/2007
Posts: 289
License Plate Numbers

John,

 If you get the license number and turn Mario Andretti in to CSD they would do something.  Either way the community should simply start publishing the license plates and then maybe their names. 

Jack Tavolario's picture
Joined: 11/07/2007
Posts: 64
MSP @ Labranza

John,

 

I have no idea if what your saying is accurate, but I do believe you believe it is, so obviously there is an issue at hand. If you’re interested, I compiled the data that speed sign spit out for the 4th, 6th, 8th, and 12th at MSP and Labranza. You can find them in the attached files in the following posts.

 

http://www.murietaonline.com/forum/f24/speed-perception-2254/#post30003

http://www.murietaonline.com/forum/f24/speed-perception-2254/index4.html#post30088

http://www.murietaonline.com/forum/f24/speed-perception-2254/index5.html#post30155

 

To tell the truth, at least for those 4 days, midnight to noon each day, out of the 6,400 vehicles, it sure doesn’t look like anyone’s going anywhere near 50, but there do seem to be a small percentage that are going at least 7MPH over the limit.

John Hein's picture
Joined: 08/07/2007
Posts: 353
Jack, thanks for the data.

Jack, thanks for the data. As for your input that only a small portion of residents are going slightly over the speed limit...of course. Do you think anyone is going to ignore the radar carts? The day they took the cart away the same offenders began to speed again. I have to admit with the carts and the patrol it has helped.

John Hein

Tom Rhoades's picture
Joined: 07/30/2007
Posts: 27
Speeding in the South - Murieta Parkway and Celebrar

I appreciate all the comments on this issue, but i have a few issues, they are as follows:

1) The radar unit is not accurate, it is at least 5-10% off on the speed being reported.

2) When the radar trailer is out on any given street, people will slow down, just like when you see a cop, YOU SLOW DOWN...

3) If security really wanted to get a true guage of the speeding problem, they would move the trailer on a daily basis if not twice a day and have it on a side street to get a good grip on the problem.

4) I have seen on many occasions cars running through the stop signs, the golf carts are even worse, many go through the stop signs at 15-20+ MPH without even slowing down.  The spots in the south I see many stop signs being run ar at both ends of Celebrar...

The farce that they are doing to report NO SPEEDING ISSUE in this community is just that, a farce, i wish they would crack down or either get speed bumps on both South Murieta Parkway and Celebrar.

Lets start reporting the real speed in this community, not the farce that continues to be reported.

Tom Rhoades

Tom Rhoades

 

John Hein's picture
Joined: 08/07/2007
Posts: 353
Well said Tom. After Jack's

Well said Tom. After Jack's remarks I decided to spend a few minutes standing on my driveway this morning with no patrol car and no radar cart. AMAZING, the same old cars, SUV's and trucks back to their old ways of not paying attention and driving substantially over the speed limit. I don't want to estimate the speed because according to Jack I embellish the reality.

The reality, if you will, is that without the radar and without a patrol officer the same people will continue to speed down my street and many others. For those of you who live on parks and small dead end streets, you don't see the problem.

John Hein

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