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Car break-ins continued in the community for the second night with two overnight incidents on the South, Security reported Friday.

The difference between the break-ins on Colbert Drive and the seven break-ins reported Thursday on the North is the cars were parked in the garage, not in the driveway. The thieves entered the garages through unlocked side doors, according to Security Chief Greg Remson.

Purses and a man's wallet were among the items taken from the vehicles, Remson said. The wallet was recovered at the scene, but the purses are still missing, he said Friday afternoon. He was unsure of the total amount of the loss.

Remson said the thefts were reported to the Sheriff's Department and deputies plan to provide extra patrols for the community.

On Thursday, Security reported seven vehicles had been burglarized on the North overnight. All of the cars were parked in driveways and apparently left unlocked. Items taken included cash, a camera and sunglasses.

Remson said Security discovered the first of South break-ins Friday morning after a resident who was getting ready for work called around 3 a.m. to report seeing a person dressed in black on the street.

The patrol officer who responded to the call didn't see anyone, but he did find an open gate at a home on the street. Upon entering the yard, the officer found the side door to the garage open and notified the residents. They discovered a purse had been taken from one of the cars in the garage and a wallet from another vehicle. The resident found the wallet on a garbage can outside the garage, Remson said.     

While the officer was talking to the resident, he heard dogs barking farther down the street and went to investigate.  He was joined in the search by a deputy who was in the area, but they didn't locate anyone, Remson said.

The second break-in was discovered later in the morning by the residents of another home on Colbert. Remson said a purse was taken in that burglary also.

Remson said it's hard to say if the same people were involved in the North and South break-ins, but his message to residents is the same: "It's what we've said and the Sheriff's Department has said. These are preventable crimes. If the gates were locked and the side doors were locked, then these crimes would probably not have occurred. This person is not forcing entry... Lock your cars, don't leave any valuables inside. If possible, park in the garage and keep the garage doors locked."

He asked that residents report any suspicious activity to Security dispatch at 354-2773 (CARE) or 354-3743. For an in-progress crime, call 911 immediately.


Chuck Lentz's picture
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CAR BREAKINS?

Just curious??

If I catch someone breaking into my car, in my driveway, do I have the right to Shoot it??  I know I do if he is in my garage but need to know if it includes theft in my driveway??

I beg you Parents, know what the hell your kids are doing and who they associate with...This can get really out of hand and be devistating. 

Your Kids know who is doing this!  Lets put a stop to it NOW.

For Christ sake Neighbors, Wake Up!

 Time for Greg to post something that speaks to this!!!!!!

Wilbur Haines's picture
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We don't know that it's kids

Vandalism, yes, that's pretty much a kid thing.  But the car burglar(s) could very well be adult.  The last guy arrested for such stuff out here was an adult as I recall.  Let's not be too quick to blame everything on the kids.

Ralph Frattura's picture
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Put the gun down

Chuck, you're not REALLY going to shoot someone for stealing something from your car, are you?

Chuck Lentz's picture
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Car Stuff

Didn't mean it that way Wilber.  People here know who it is!!!

I agree, kids get blamed and they are not alway at fault. 

Trash people here are!  I have been here 23 years.  The first 15 were fantastic, 

Where do you come from or where do you think this nonsense comes from??  

 Do you have a problem if I shoot??  3 tours Korea and 6 Vietman. I don't tolerate nonsense!

Chuck Lentz's picture
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CAR BREAKINS?

Ralph:

 

People that know me will agree,  I say where ,I come from!

 I would hope it would not come to that.  The solution is simple..Those that know, turn the trash in.  Are you protecting someone??????????

Lisa Taylor's picture
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just curious

Just curious Chuck, what do you expect Chief Remson or his officers to do? All security officers have been stripped of any authority they had, their job description has completely changed, the board has endorsed this, the community has also endorsed this by not speaking out and furthermore electing someone that feels our security needs no authority.

Seems to me that this community is now in the hands of SSD since we've given up any local powers that we had.

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Ralph Frattura's picture
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Guilty as charged

You got me, Chuck.  The only reason I suggest you don't shoot someone for this is because I'm the one who's breaking into cars and I don't want to get shot.

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Ralph, Chuck, Wilbur & Lisa

Ralph, please don’t tell me it’s so….

Chuck, unfortunately these are hard economic times and some people take advantage of opportunities.  These opportunities unfortunately come from people who do not take preventative measures in ensuring their property is properly locked up.  Yes, I am one of those who lock the car doors in my garage!! 

Wilbur, you are correct, in that these individuals may or may not be juveniles?  Hopefully we will be able to determine that soon.

Lisa, as you are aware, whether it is security or the Sheriff’s Department, we cannot be everywhere all of the time!!

Lastly, I invite everyone to the Meet and Greet with the Sheriff’s Department this Tuesday at the Community Services District Building from 5 to 7 p.m.  This is a great opportunity to meet the new staff, get crime prevention ideas and meet your neighbors. 

 

Lisa Taylor's picture
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understood

I completely understand Raelyn that no force can be everywhere at one time, whether it's your SSD or CSD. I know that the SSD tries when they have time.

The part I had to object to is the implication that security really has anything to do with this (aside from being a presence and being visible).  Since their authority has been stripped, these incidents have increased -- we have no local force with the tools to address these problems. That is what the board and the community has chosen, and I think it's unfair to go after Chief Remson on these issues.

While times may be more difficult these days, these incidents in RM are not unique to the recent times, unfortunately Frown.

 

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Doug Lewis's picture
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Burglary

Unless California is different than most states,  entering a garage attached to a residence thru even an unlocked door to commit a crime there in is a felony burglary.  Not a car prowl.  Lets hope they get the attention of a burglary, as the next move might be to come on into a residence.   Although homeowners should secure their vehicles and residences lets remember the fault lies with the thief and not the victims. 

Chuck don't even think about using deadly force in such a situation.  Even in burglary cases homeowners have been charged for shooting an intruder in situations where the home owner could not prove he was in danger.  Also the last thing our security and the SO need is a homeowner waving guns around as they do a premise check.  I know the feeling as years ago I was doing a prowler check and came around the corner of the house and had a .44magnum stuck in my face by a homeowner who had been told to stay inside.

This garage MO seems very similar to that of the last guy that was caught. Who did he hang with? 

Sometimes it is better to retreat than to confront especially if you surprise a burglar.  On the other hand in case it is a kid, parents should stress to them how serious this is and that some  homeowner, believing he is in his rights,  might try to prove you cant outrun a bullet or dodge a baseball bat.  

   

Doug Lewis

 

Doug Lewis

Myrna Solomon's picture
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re: please call sheriff's or VIPS

I would encourage people who have been burglarized to call 911 and if the security suggests that you call VIPS PLEASE do that. Since the Sheriffs South Bureau is responding to our community now, they have assured us that they want RM to call them because they want to help us get rid of the criminal activity we have here. It is really important to call them out or give the VIPS a call so that there will be statistics to show that we do have more activity than is shown by the few reports that are taken. Even if nothing is taken but there is evidence that kids/young adults were on your property, make that call, it could help in the investigation to other crimes.  By the way, even if the VIPs volunteers aren't at the Safety Center, leave a message because it is checked twice a day and someone will call you back.  Myrna Solomon

Myrna Solomon

Lisa Taylor's picture
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non-911 number?

 

I would encourage people who have been burglarized to call 911

Myrna,

Do you have the non-emergency number(s) for folks to call for after-the-fact reporting?  

 

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chick, yer spot on.  LE

chick, yer spot on.  LE isn't interested in helping unless they have a contract for serious $$.  that's why there is a 2nd amendment.

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LOL

Nice one Ralph. BITFOTFL !

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Theft

I like the way Chuck thinks! My firearm is loaded and ready!!

Kim Smith's picture
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ready to fire...

I have to laugh.  All this talk about loaded firearms has made me realize that the weapons in our house are quasai-disassembled (thanks to our recent insurgance of toddlers)... with the ammunition stored in a different location in our house.... what a sight I'd be if I ever needed it.  I can see me yelling now- "wait a minute while I put this da****d thing together!" Wink  

Chuck Lentz's picture
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Recent Crime

Kim: 

Cute.

My original intent was to wake peopel up!

Someone here knows who is the creap!!  Devistaking to think it would take someone like me to stop it in its track..

I have been faced with that, have you??

 Our limited security kneeds help.  I'm sure they have some suspicions but cannot put it down..  Only someone here can provide that for them... 

When I said "Just Curious", it really meant, come forward and do what you can live with...  God forbid it is your kid or a family friend...  Possibly is though!

Somebody, come forward.  NOW!

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